In this episode of the Asia Business Podcast, we’re joined by Ker Gibbs, former president of the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai and partner at Foresight Restructuring. We discuss the ongoing trade tensions between the US and China, focusing on tariffs, business strategies, and geopolitical differences. Key topics include the complications of US-China negotiations, the impact of Made in China 2025, and the role of multinational companies in navigating globalization and self-sufficiency trends.
Welcome to the latest edition of the Asia Business Podcast blog, where we delve into pressing economic issues and challenges. In this episode, we’re joined by Ker Gibbs, an esteemed former president of the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai, and an expert with deep insights into U.S.-China trade relations. Ker shares his perspectives on the ongoing trade tensions, the geopolitical landscape, and the role of multinational businesses amid evolving global strategies.
Ker Gibbs brings a wealth of experience from his tenure as the president of the American Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai. An executive in residence at the University of San Francisco and a partner at Foresight Restructuring, Ker has also co-authored "Selling to China," offering an in-depth exploration of foreign business adaptations within China.
Ker and Art discuss the ever-changing trade disputes between the U.S. and China, emphasizing the fluidity and complexity of negotiations. Ker highlights how changing U.S. strategies, particularly during the Trump administration, contributed to the tensions around tariffs and broader trade issues. The conversation delves into key obstacles in the bilateral relationship, including questions of sovereignty, economic supremacy, and military containment.
The discussion shifts to China's "Made in China 2025" initiative, which Ker notes has been less publicly discussed in recent times. However, the ambitions to dominate in areas like robotics and artificial intelligence continue to influence perceptions and policies in Washington, contributing to trade tensions. Ker explores how such initiatives may appear threatening to the U.S., given differing historical and economic perspectives.
As the conversation continues, Ker offers insights into how multinational companies are adapting to the challenges of decoupling and increased self-sufficiency. He discusses the restructuring required for global businesses to operate in a siloed model, emphasizing the resilience and adaptability needed by companies in these complex scenarios.
The podcast also covers the intricate and symbiotic economic relationship between the U.S. and China. Ker and Art debate how both nations face significant domestic political pressures, affecting global trade and decision-making processes. They examine how multinational companies might engage with these political landscapes, providing potential pathways for future cooperation.
Ker stresses the importance of multinational companies playing a role in bridging policy and business divides, especially in the context of globalization. He argues that while businesses are inherently driven by profit motives, they can still contribute to societal solutions by understanding the broader policy implications of their operations.
In closing, Ker Gibbs remains optimistic about reaching a trade agreement, considering the potential economic harms that could arise from prolonged disputes. The podcast ends with a reflection on the importance of continual dialogue and foresight in restructuring global strategies to enhance resiliency and cooperation between the U.S. and China.
Listeners interested in further information can connect with Ker via LinkedIn, Facebook, or Instagram, where he shares continued insights on U.S.-China business dynamics. Thank you for joining us in this insightful conversation on the Asia Business Podcast. Stay tuned for more episodes that navigate the complexities of international trade and economics.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:53 Current US-China Trade Obstacles
02:04 Trump's Trade Strategy and China's Response
04:51 Geopolitical Tensions and Historical Context
08:00 Made in China 2025 and Self-Sufficiency
14:05 Business Community's Role in US-China Relations
26:46 Conclusion and Final Thoughts